Buckminster Fuller stated in effect that; the purpose of people on earth is
to counteract the tide of entropy described in the Second law of Thermondynamics.
Physical things are falling apart at a terrific rate - people on the other
hand put things together. People build bridges and cities and roads - they
write music and novels - they have ideas. That is why people are here - the
universe as it is needs somebody or something to keep it from falling apart.
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Life is not defined by DNA but by a continuous chemical struggle against entropy. The second law of thermodynamics tells us that all natural systems move spontaneously toward maximum entropy. By literally assembling itself from thin air, biological life appears to be the lone exception to this law. The gaseous molecules snared by plants during photosynthesis were once free to roam the entire atmosphere of Earth. Plants — Earth's primary producers — fix gas molecules from the air and minerals from the water into sugars and proteins. Humans eat the plants, or we eat the animals that eat the plants. Now those molecules that were free to roam the skies and waters must be where you are, go where you go, and do what you do. Clearly, the atoms in your body have experienced a radical reduction in entropy. But thermodynamics takes the full measure of the physical world. What little biology can build is barely visible against the chaotic horizon generated as the sun exfoliates into space. Like a tiny windmill in the solar hurricane, the wheel of life is turned by a unique set of chemical reactions that capture and channel the least part of that storm of dissipating energy into further cycles of replication. Biological life is a tiny stowaway on the entropy-powered craft of our solar system. Dr. Alan H. Goldstein
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Hippy is an establishment label for a profound, invisible, underground, evolutionary process
. For every visible hippy, barefoot, beflowered, beaded, there are a thousand invisible members of the turned-on underground. Persons whose lives are tuned in to their inner vision, who are dropping out of the TV comedy of American Life.
Timothy Leary
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There is compelling support, Levitin says, for the idea that our brains evolved to respond to music in this
way; in other words, it is no accident -- and rather it's by evolutionary design -- that we are so good at
processing music. One bit of evidence is the ubiquity of music across cultures, and across history. "No
known human culture now or anytime in the recorded past lacked music," Levitin notes. More than that, we
are amazingly good -- nearly magical, when you consider how much better we are than even supercomputers --
at processing sounds. For instance, your brain can instantly spot a transformation -- that is, another
version -- of a song, even if the two are radically different. John Coltrane's "My Favorite Things" varies
in tempo, pitch, instrumentation and countless other ways from the Rodgers and Hammerstein, "Sound of
Music" version, but you know the two as the same song; the same is true for OutKast's funked-out, hip-hop
"My Favorite Things." Computers simply cannot do this; our brains are uniquely efficient at such complex
pattern-matching tasks.
No known human culture now or anytime in the recorded past lacked music
Finally there is that most important thing about music: its connection to love, or, more specifically, to
arousal and mating. Unlike birds and whales, humans don't produce musical mating calls. But as social
animals, humans need strategies to attract potential mates, and music might have been an important part of
the process. "As a tool for activation of specific thoughts, music is not as good as language," Levitin
writes. But "as a tool for arousing feelings and emotions, music is better than language." If you want your
potential mate to remember you, you serenade her, or at least get Peter Gabriel to do it.
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Hold on girl, now don't be blue,
dry those tears for me and you,
Can't you see our love is true, when you remember,
To do just what you say you'll do, can't you see I live for you?
And I need you to trust me too, open your eyes.
So the sun shine thats in you, will light all your windows,
And change all your baby blues to golden sparks that light your eyes,
When you finally realize that your fears were all just lies,
So open your eyes, and let the sun shine thats in you,
Light all your windows and change all your baby blues to gooooo
"Light Your Window" Quicksilver Messenger Service
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"Alright friends, you have seen the heavy groups, now you will see morning maniac music. Believe me, yeah. It's a new dawn. Good morning, people!" - Grace Slick, upon walking out on stage at Woodstock
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"We are the people that our parents warned us about." - Grace Slick, late '60s
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Peace turns out to be a fragile local phenomenon that depends on
circumstances, population density,
biological needs, availability of resources, and so on. If you value
peace, the best you can do is to
provide conditions for peace, not to "install" peace itself.
Rafael Núñez
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"fear not the path of truth for the lack of people walking on it" jfk
As Carl Sagan was fond of saying, prophecy is a lost art.
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As Dwight Eisenhower said: plans are useless, but planning is indispensible.
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Athenians saw themselves as invincible warriors for freedom when they went off to Syracuse in 413 BCE. They
were shocked when victory did not come. The reasons for the war turned out to be a complete lie and the
situation much more complex. In a stunning defeat, their entire Navy got trapped in the middle of a civil
war and slaughtered. A few rich aristocratic families, the Tyrants, (as they were called) exploited this
horrifying loss and convinced Athenians to change the constitution to give them power. Once in power, in
the name of patriotism and security this small group of tyrants sold their people out to Sparta, looted the
public treasury, and left Athens broke. The educated middle class was destroyed and over time the rule of
kings returned.
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"'To bereave a man of life,' says he, 'or by violence to confiscate his estate, without accusation or
trial, would be so gross and notorious an act of despotism, as must at once convey the alarm of tyranny
throughout the whole nation; but confinement of the person, by secretly hurrying him to jail, where his
sufferings are unknown or forgotten, is a less public, a less striking, and therefore A MORE DANGEROUS
ENGINE of arbitrary government.''' [Capitals all Hamilton's from the original.]
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Bertolt Brecht: “When the leaders speak of peace, the common folk know that war is coming. When the leaders
curse war, the mobilization order is already written out.
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Chris Rapley, director of the British Antarctic Survey, warned that the polar ice caps were breaking up at
a faster rate than glaciologists thought possible, with profound consequences for global sea levels.
Professor Rapley said the change was almost certainly down to global warming.
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I consider myself an average man, except for the fact that I consider myself an average man.
— Michel de Montaigne
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"Whenever you read a book or have a conversation, the experience causes
physical changes in your brain. It's a little frightening to think that
every time you walk away from an encounter, your brain has been altered,
sometimes permanently."
George Johnson from In the Palaces of Memory.
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All of which leads me to conclude that life is an obligatory manifestation of matter, bound to arise where
conditions are appropriate. Unfortunately, available technology does not allow us to find out how many
sites offer appropriate conditions in our galaxy, let alone in the universe. According to most experts who
have considered the problem—notably, in relation with the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence
project—there should be plenty of such sites, perhaps as many as one million per galaxy. If these experts
are right, and if I am correct, there must be about as many foci of life in the universe. Life is a cosmic
imperative. The universe is awash with life.
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"There's this thing called being so open-minded your brains
drop out."
Richard Dawkins
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"It has become almost a cliché to remark that nobody boasts
of ignorance of literature, but it is socially acceptable to
boast ignorance of science."
Richard Dawkins
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It is my conviction, informed by some years of anthropological fieldwork, psychological experimentation and political negotiations, that reason in the sense of consistent argumentation from evidence and logic is only one of several cognitive tools that humans are endowed with in order to navigate the physical and social world they live in — very good for finding the hidden springs and causes of the world around us but pretty bad for morally deciding what to do about what we find. More often than not, reason — as David Hume so cogently put it — "is and ought to be a slave of the passions." Scott Atran
Anthropologist
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The late Rear Admiral Eugene Carroll noted, "There is an old military doctrine called the 'First Rule of
Holes': if you find yourself stuck in one, stop digging."
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If we're lucky, there'll be a few more acres of national park or protected wetlands after two years of a
Democratic Congress. The minimum wage will rise to the inadequate level (in real terms) it was before it
was allowed to slide so low that even McDonald's restaurants wouldn't honor it. The idiotic Medicare drug
program will be tinkered with, but no one will confront or curtail the dominance of the drug and insurance
cartels. Some foolish manipulations of the “pollution credits” trading will stand in for the societal
reorganization required to begin to deal with global warming. We'll back out of Iraq after a year or more
of diddling during which thousands more Iraqis will be tortured, dismembered, buried or left to rot, and a
few hundred more of our own men and women will be wasted so that we may declare our time in country a
victory.
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Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees
with your own reason and your own common sense. - Buddha
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"And don't think you're off the hook voters, you're the ones who made this
bed. Now you're the ones who are going to have to move over so a gay couple
can sleep in it. Tomorrow you're all going to wake up in a brave new
world, a world where the constitution gets trampled by an army of terrorist
clones, created in a stem cell research lab, run by homosexual doctors who
sterilize their instruments over burning American flags!!!"
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Goin' back home
To the Village of the Sun
Out in back of Palmdale
Where the turkey farmers run, I done
Made up my mind
And I know I'm gonna go to Sun
Village, good God I hope the
Wind don't blow
It take the paint off your car
And wreck your windshield too,
I don't know how the people stand it,
But I guess they do
Cause they're all still there,
Even Johnny Franklin too
In the Village of the Sun
Village of the Sun
Village of the Sun, son
(Sun Village to you-ooo-ooo-ooo-ooo-ooo, well!)
Frank Zappa
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Sweet Music is traditionally made in a building called a sugarhouse. Each suagrhouse will have amplifiers to boil the sappy tunes into sugar. The amplifiers and speakers are fueled by dancing that heats the concert hall. The sappy tunes are boiled by the heat given off by these dancers. The size of the PA depends upon the number of songs that are being taped. The music sugar season or "sugar weather" occurs when the nights are dank, the days are mild and college is out for the summer. This usually lasts between four to six weeks depending upon the moral climate of the region. Music sap is approximately 98% water and 2% sugar when it comes out of the band. When the syrup is finished into a song, it is only 33% water and 67% sugar, which explains its sweetness. Because the music sugaring season is so short it is important that the tapers strike when the sweet music is running.
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The uninitiated are well-advised to avoid schoepsi schoepsi
maxellus, more widely known as the Common Taper Geek.
Taper Geeks usually travel without female companions (as few seem able to
psychologically withstand more than several hours of encoded,
numerical speech)but converge almost mystically to erect a small forest
of aluminum polls once their destination is reached.
Once his forest territory has been marked, it is considered
unadvisable to approach the Taper Geek, although few of them are
equipped for any sort of physical confrontation.
One can readily identify schoepsi maxellus by its clenched jaw and
sphincter,which tightens exponentially as the 8 p.m. hour approaches.
Other distinguishing traits include thick spectacles, Docker slacks and
fanny packs;
If concealed in the brush, schoepsi maxellus makes its presence known
by its unmistakable mating call:
Shhhhhhhh
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"I would like to begin a discussion about the first glimmerings of a new scientific world view — beyond reductionism to emergence and radical creativity in the biosphere and human world. This emerging view finds a natural scientific place for value and ethics, and places us as co-creators of the enormous web of emerging complexity that is the evolving biosphere and human economics and culture. In this scientific world view, we can ask: Is it more astonishing that a God created all that exists in six days, or that the natural processes of the creative universe have yielded galaxies, chemistry, life, agency, meaning, value, consciousness, culture without a Creator. In my mind and heart, the overwhelming answer is that the truth as best we know it, that all arose with no Creator agent, all on its wondrous own, is so awesome and stunning that it is God enough for me and I hope much of humankind."
Stuart Kauffman via
Edge.org
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"I look forward to the immediate future as a part of the long human slog towards a better culture and society in spite of the constant flux of misguided craziness." GEORGE F. SMOOT
Cosmologist, Lawrence
Berkeley
National Laboratory; Recipient, The Nobel Prize For Physics 2006
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General and President Dwight Eisenhower who said that, "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed."
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As Albert Einstein expressed, it is "our experience of ourselves, as something separate from the rest [that is] - a kind of optical illusion of consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening the circle of understanding and compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty."
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Webb described a different country entirely, one that distributes benefits unfairly. "When I graduated from college, the average corporate CEO made 20 times what the average worker did; today, it's nearly 400 times," he said. "Wages and salaries for our workers are at all-time lows as a percentage of national wealth, even though the productivity of American workers is the highest in the world. Medical costs have skyrocketed. College tuition rates are off the charts. Our manufacturing base is being dismantled and sent overseas. Good American jobs are being sent along with them." Democratic Sen. Jim Webb
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Greed is to be slightly blamed but it is slow to change. Hatred is to be greatly blamed but it is quick to change. Delusion is to be greatly blamed and it is slow to change.
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We’re so disgusted about our tax dollars going to death and destruction and corporate war profits, so disgusted at America’s reputation being sullied internationally by leaders who don’t truly represent us, so damned disgusted with this scourge that we’re willing to cram our epidemically overweight American bodies into tiny mass transportation seats and travel by car or bus, by train or by plane, by every possible conveyance from all corners of the country, spending time and money we don’t really have, to go in great numbers to our nation’s Capitol and shout in unison, “Hell no, we won’t go along with this.” Lisa Rowe Fraustino
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It's been said that dreams are our roadmaps to the future. If so, where are we headed? Common Dreams is a national non-profit citizens' organization.
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As Exxon-Mobil reported the largest profits ever for a U.S. corporation in 2006 –$39 billion–or $4.5 million a minute, international scientists and climate experts on the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change issued an urgent warning that there is a 90% certainty that the human activity of over-consumption of fossil fuel is causing global warming. Tom Turnipseed
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Specifically, I suggest that "other awareness" may have
evolved first and then counterintutively, as often happens in
evolution, the same ability was exploited to model ones own
mind — what one calls self awareness. V.S. Ramachandran
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If, as a nation, we are serious about addressing the long neglected needs of the working people of this country and creating a more egalitarian society, we have got to invest in education, health care, housing, infrastructure, environmental protection and sustainable energy as well as many other areas. We also have to reduce our national debt. Given that reality, Congress must develop the courage to stand up to the big money interests and roll-back the tax breaks for the wealthiest one percent, eliminate corporate welfare and demand that the wealthy and powerful rejoin American society.
For years now a small fraction of American households have been garnering a larger and larger concentration of wealth and income, while large corporations and financial institutions have obtained unprecedented power over who wins and who loses. Inequality in America is greater than it's been in 50 years. In 1960 the gap in terms of wealth between the top 20% and the bottom 20% was 30 fold. Today it's more than 75 fold. Bill Moyers
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This is my life
I'm satisfied
So watch it
Don't try to keep me tied
So why not
Let me be satisfied
This is my life
This is my Way
This is my time
This is my dream
You know i like it
This is my Way
It suits me fine
So watch it doing
Or i leave you behind
So why not
Fit your life in with mine
This is my way
This is my time
This is my dream
This is my life
You know i like it
I like it
Now tell me what you see
Is it the same thing you want me to be
I've seen it all happen so long before
Please believe when i say it's a bore
I need more
I need more
I need more more
This is my time
I'm doing my best
So watch it
Ain't gonna be like the rest, no
So why not
Get away from the mass
This is my time
This is my Dream
This is my way
This is my life
You know i like it
I like it
You know it's mine
And I Like It, Jefferson Airplane
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Every human being is part of the web of life, so any denigration on
the part of one for another, be it by racism, sexism, torture,
misuse of power, etc inevitably impacts the whole. Our world is a
broken fabric, and this is the time when either we learn to work
together to overcome the true threats (like global warming), or
this great Divine experiment gets set back on the timeless dial of
the universe, the elementals step in through climatic chaos to
clear the slate, and eventually as the evolutionary chain
reconfigures itself, Creator imparts SOUL again to matter. Anyone
in the mood to wait that long? LIFE as dancing DNA is the UNION of
yin and yang, if the male can’t see in his counterpart the face of
Divinity, then there is no hope for healing our wounded planet.
SiouxRose
It was, always and forever, about connectedness. It was about how we are all in this together. It was about resisting the status quo and fighting tyrannical corporate/political power and it was about opening your consciousness and seeing new possibilities of how we can all live with something resembling actual respect for the planet, for alternative cultures, for each other. You know, all that typical hippie crap no one believes in anymore. Right?
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The Dalai Lama’s speech, “Compassion: The Source of Happiness,” touched on many topics. But what really struck me was his take on secularism. He said some people think moral ethics must be based on religious faith. But we must be able to promote human values, such as compassion, forgiveness, and tolerance, without talking about religion.
Many people think secularism is a rejection of religion, he said, but it can mean respect to all religions and to non-believers. So there you go, a Buddhist monk sounding the horn for secularism.
Elizabeth DiNovella
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Can you hear it in the morning, it sings the golden song,
I saw his moving ever on the run, from and to the sound of one
Turning in, turning out, spirals high, never down,
Wonder, wonder wanders, loving, loving lovers,
Freefall, tumbling walls, one world, one one truth,
If if it's above life is low, life is slow,
Love is life, it's love, love
2007-06-29
Craig Venter
has announced the results of his lab's work on genome transplantation methods that allows for the transformation of one type of bacteria into another, dictated by the transplanted chromosome. In other words, one species becomes another. This is news, bound to affect everyone on the planet.
"Now we know we can boot up a chromosome system. It doesn't matter if the DNA is chemically made in a cell or made in a test tube. Until this development, if you made a synthetic chomosome you had the question of what do you do with it. Replacing the chomosome with existing cells, if it works, seems the most effective to way to replace one already in an existing cell systems. We didn't know if it would work or not. Now we do. This is a major advance in the field of synthetic genomics. We now know we can create a synthetic organism. It's not a question of 'if', or 'how', but 'when', and in this regard, think weeks and months, not years."
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It is understandable that today’s youth, with so many entertainment options and electronic distractions, and with the pursuit of
good times high on their list of priorities, can’t be sufficiently aware of world issues. But they do read newspaper headlines
and occasionally watch the news. They simply don’t get enough information from these sources. If they hear at all about controversial
issues, the information is oversimplified, incomplete, and often one-sided.
They need to know that only eight corporations — Time Warner, Disney, Murdoch’s News Corporation, Viacom (formerly CBS), General Electric, Yahoo, Google, and MSN — now control most of the U.S. media, and that some of them have close connections to companies making weaponry for the U.S. military.
Source article by Paul Buchheit
TOWARD DIGITIZING MEMORIES Our work with mice also yielded a way for us to compare patterns from one brain to another--and even to pass information from a brain to a computer. Using a mathematical treatment called matrix inversion, we were able to translate the activities of neural clique assemblies into a string of binary code, where 1 represents an active state and 0 represents an inactive state for each coding unit within a given assembly we examined. For example, the memory of an earthquake might be recorded as "11001," where the first 1 represents activation of the general startle clique, the second 1 represents activation of the clique that responds to a motion disturbance, the first 0 indicates lack of activity in the air-puff clique, the second 0 indicates lack of activity in the elevator-drop clique and the final 1 shows activation of the earthquake clique. We have applied a similar binary code to the neural ensemble activity from four different mice and were able to predict, with up to 99 percent accuracy, which event they had experienced and where it had happened. In other words, by scanning the binary code we could read and compare the animals' minds mathematically.
Such a binary code of the brain could also provide a potentially unifying framework for studying cognition, even across animal species, and could greatly facilitate the design of more seamless, real-time brain-to-machine communication. For example, we have arranged a system that converts the neural activity of a mouse experiencing an earthquake into a binary code that instructs an escape hatch to open, allowing the animal to exit the shaking container. We believe our approach provides an alternative, more intuitive decoding method for powering the kinds of devices that have already allowed patients with neural implants to control a cursor on a computer screen or a monkey to move a robotic arm using signals recorded from its motor cortex. Moreover, real-time processing of memory codes in the brain might, one day, lead to downloading of memories directly to a computer for permanent digital storage.
For me, our discoveries raise many interesting--and unnerving--philosophical possibilities. If all our memories, emotions, knowledge and imagination can be translated into 1s and 0s, who knows what that would mean for who we are and how we will operate in the future.
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Two from Twain:
"Dance like nobody's watching; love like you've never been hurt. Sing like nobody's listening; live like it's heaven on earth."
"Always do right - this will gratify some and astonish the rest."
Mark Twain
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WHAT ABOUT ME by Jessie Farrow
(Released December of 1970 on a Quicksilver Messenger Service Album)
You poisoned my sweet water.
You cut down my green trees.
The food you fed my children
Was the cause of their disease.
My world is slowly fallin' down
And the airs not good to breathe.
And those of us who care enough,
We have to do something.......
(Chorus)
Oh.......oh What you gonna do about me?
Oh.......oh What you gonna do about me?
Your newspapers,
They just put you on.
They never tell you
The whole story.
They just put your
Young ideas down.
I was wonderin' could this be the end
Of your pride and glory?
The word ‘impeach’ is cognate with ‘impede’, from a Latin word for a ‘foot-fetter’ or ‘ankle snare’; it means literally "to tangle the feet."
We need to tangle the feet of an administration that is helping Al Qaeda in producing mass casualties, visually dramatic destruction, significant economic aftershocks, and/or fear among the U.S. population.”For over six years we have become progressively more entangled in their webs of lies, misinformation, secrecy and coercion. It’s time to free our hands and tangle the feet of Bush and Cheney, to challenge their concept of the imperial executive, and test the validity of their endless war at any cost.
They are now quickening their pace toward fascism and perpetual war. We must take matters into our own hands and insist that our House of Representatives impeach them, even if our Senate and Senators can’t or won’t convict them and pluck them off the stage.
Source article by Caroline Arnold
In the modern world, science and society often interact in a perverse way. We live in a technological society, and technology causes political problems. The politicians and the public expect science to provide answers to the problems. Scientific experts are paid and encouraged to provide answers. The public does not have much use for a scientist who says, “Sorry, but we don’t know”. The public prefers to listen to scientists who give confident answers to questions and make confident predictions of what will happen as a result of human activities. So it happens that the experts who talk publicly about politically contentious questions tend to speak more clearly than they think. They make confident predictions about the future, and end up believing their own predictions. Their predictions become dogmas which they do not question. The public is led to believe that the fashionable scientific dogmas are true, and it may sometimes happen that they are wrong. That is why heretics who question the dogmas are needed.
Here is a response to the above article. This is a good example of how SCIENCE works to advance knowledge.
Analysts See ‘Simply Incredible’ Shrinking of Floating Ice in the Arctic
NY Times 2007-08-11
Arctic Sea Ice Shrinks to Record Low with a FULL MONTH TO GO UNTIL MAXIMUM IS REACHED. Associated Press 2007-08-17
"You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows" Bob Dylan
Hurricane Dean is building up strength as it passes through the Caribbean.
Forecasters say it may achieve the highest category, FIVE, by the time it reaches Mexico on Monday the 20th. 2007-08-19
The Gilded Age ends on Jan. 20, 2009, but until then, the bailouts will flow for the few, while the pain will be felt by the many.
This is another reason the world will rejoice when the age of Bush ends, and the age of reform begins, after the American people speak in November 2008.
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"Music seems to me to be a direct route to the heart, or between hearts- in fact the most direct." Douglas Hofstadter from the book "I Am A Strange Loop".
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Billionaires no longer rich enough to make Forbes list.
For the first time, $1 billion isn’t enough to land someone on Forbes’ list of the 400 richest Americans. Forbes associated editor Matthew Miller said that there “are 82 American billionaires who do not make the Forbes 400 this year.” Income inequality has grown dramatically in recent years, “with the top 1 percent of Americans — those with incomes that year of more than $348,000 — receiving their largest share of national income since 1928.”
And here’s my thesis, my first principle, my outrageous claim: that we are evolved to spend our weekends cleaning up the woodlot, smoothing the driveway, removing the great thickets of fir in favor of a nice parkland of oaks and maples. I’m not the only person who lives this way. I’ve run into a few others. The Internet, and the dissemination of my essays around the globe through its agency, have brought fellow travelers to me. I’ll get messages from strangers who will tell me, yes, just so, I am they and they are me and we are all together.
by Christopher Cooper
I am gross and perverted
I'm obsessed 'n deranged
I have existed for years
But very little has changed
I'm the tool of the Government
And industry too
For I am destined to rule
And regulate you
I may be vile and pernicious
But you can't look away
I make you think I'm delicious
With the stuff that I say
I'm the best you can get
Have you guessed me yet?
I'm the slime oozin' out
From your TV set
You will obey me while I lead you
And eat the garbage that I feed you
Until the day that we don't need you
Don't go for help . . . no one will heed you
Your mind is totally controlled
It has been stuffed into my mold
And you will do as you are told
Until the rights to you are sold
That's right, folks . . .
Don't touch that dial
Well, I am the slime from your video
Oozin' along on your livin' room floor
I am the slime from your video
Can't stop the slime, people, lookit me go
I am the slime from your video
Oozin' along on your livin' room floor
I am the slime from your video
Can't stop the slime, people, lookit me go
